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Tuesday, April 21, 2015

Naming Names

Stand Firm in the Faith has been given permission to reproduce the article titled:  Naming Names by Martin and Deidre Bobgan, PsychoHeresy Awareness Letter -Issue - March-April 2015.  Visit the ministry website at: http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/mainpage.html   PsychoHeresy Awareness Letter is a free, bimonthly publication of PsychoHeresy Awareness Ministries. 


Naming Names 
By Martin and Deidre Bobgan 


Some people have wondered why we don’t just expose the spiritual dangers of clinical psychology and its psychotherapies without naming names.  They evidently think that simply describing the unbiblical teachings would suffice.  But, would that be enough?  Why do we name names? 

We began naming names shortly after 1979, when our first of 21 books, The Psychological Way/The Spiritual Way, was published.(1) In that book we described how psychological counseling theories and therapies were coming into the church, but did not identify by name those Christian leaders who were guilty of what we later called “psychoheresy.” We mistakenly thought that Christian readers would make the applications.(2)   However, without names attached to what we  saw happening in the church, very few Christians seemed to be able to connect what we were saying to the many pastors and church leaders who were guilty of replacing or supplementing the soul care ministry of the saints to one another with counseling psychology.  

As clear as we thought we were and as much as we naively believed that our book would stem the rising tide of counseling psychology in the church, it didn’t happen.  On the contrary, the problem grew rapidly and those whom we did not identify became more popular.  What puzzled us at the time was how some Christians could express agreement with us and yet support Gary Collins, Larry Crabb, James Dobson, Paul Meier, Frank Minirth, and other integrationists.  Therefore, we began naming Christian leaders who were guilty of psychoheresy and who were spiritually seducing those in the church with their false teachings. 

We do not take lightly the responsibility for naming names, but do so out of deep concern that psychoheresy has eroded a central belief of the church that existed until the rise of the psychological counseling movement less than 60 years ago. In their book The Practice of Psychology:  The Battle for Professionalism, the authors trace the history of the recent rise of the practice of psychotherapy.  They report: “The independent provision of psychological services was virtually nonexistent prior to and during World War II.” (3)  This is confirmed in the book The Romance of American Psychology, in which the author says, “Before World War II, professional healers and counselors were few; most individuals allied with psychology did work unrelated to “helping’” The author reveals: “Throughout the entire post war era, the United States has trained and employed more psychological experts, per capita, than any other country in the world.” (4)

Prior to this modern phenomenon of professional counseling and prevalent throughout church history, there was a ministry to suffering souls within the church.  John T. McNeill traces this history in his book  A History of the Cure of Souls.(5)  Then during the last century, the basis for the care of souls shifted from faith in the sufficiency of Scripture to faith in secular notions posing as science.  Like the proverbial camel’s nose in the tent, the clinical psychology that existed in the universities nosed itself into the church and shortly thereafter the whole camel came in and eclipsed a biblically-based care of souls. 

While one can read about what happened, there is almost no concern about the fact that it did happen and especially that there was no identifying by name those involved in the wholesale substitution of talk therapy for the almost 2000-year-old ministry of soul care. As we have often said and repeatedly demonstrated: The present-day church has strained at many theological gnats but swallowed the camel of psychotherapy to such an extent that the sufficiency of Scripture for the issues of life has been overlooked for “profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called” (1Tim. 6:20), which is an apt description of psychoheresy. 

When we wrote the original edition of our book Psychoheresy: The Psychological Seduction of Christianity over 25 years ago we named many popular Christian leaders.  Dr. Jay Adams endorsed the book and said: 

Some people will say the Bobgans are hitting too hard--naming names and all that--but I don’t think so. Whenever someone writes for the Christian public he sets forth his views to the scrutiny of others, but if others think what he says is dangerous to the church they, like Paul (who named names too), have an obligation to say so. (6) 

In another place Adams said: 


Any Christian who sets himself up as a teacher in the church of Christ and publicly teaches anything thereby opens himself up for criticism by others (cf. James 3:1).  If they think what he is teaching is harmful to the church, they have an obligation to point it out just as widely as it was taught.  Such public warning or debate on a topic should not be considered a personal attack at all….  What a critic of a public teaching does in pointing out his disagreement with that teaching has nothing to do with personal affronts or lack of reconciliation;  he is simply disagreeing at the same public level as that on which the teaching was given in the first place. (7) 


Both in church history and in the Bible names were named, for example: Arius, Pelagius, Sabellius, and Socinius.  All were named publicly and extensively.  History reveals that public critiquing was always part of the church.  In fact, the various church councils often included fiery debates between various men.  During the Reformation there was much public naming of names and open debates.  That’s what the 95 theses on the Wittenberg door were all about.  Luther named and debated men publicly so that others could judge. 

In the Bible itself we read that Jesus (Rev.2:20), Paul (Gal. 2:11-14; 1 Tim. 1:19-20;  2 Tim. 1:15, 2:17, 4:10, 4:14),  and John (3 John 1:9-10) all named names.  In Acts 7 the Bereans checked the apostle Paul’s teachings with the Scriptures.  In Galatians we read how the apostle Paul faced off with the apostle Peter.  Paul says,  “But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed” (Gal. 2:11) and  “I said unto Peter before them all,  If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compelest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?”  (Gal. 2:14).  

These naysayers on naming names, who say such things as “touch not God’s anointed” and “judge not that ye be judged,” need to learn a lesson from this one biblical interchange, unless they believe that the apostle Peter was not God’s anointed and that Paul was not judging!  What the Bible does speak out against, however, is division caused by elevating personalities (1 Corinthians 1); infighting not having to do with essential doctrine, but motivated by selfish desires--having one’s own way (3 John); and division caused by heresy (Galatians 1 and 2 Peter 2).  

Following biblical examples and church history, one should name names publicly regarding public teachings and examples when they are in serious conflict with Scripture. Moreover, Scripture directs us to name names: “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them”  (Romans 16:17).  How else can one mark those whose teachings and practices are “offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned” without naming names?  And, how serious are these psychological counseling theories and therapies as “offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned”?  The denial of the sufficiency of Scripture for living the Christian life is a serious violation of both Scripture and the historic care of souls that is based upon the Word of God!  Psychotherapy is not based upon the Word of God; psychotherapy is based upon the fallen and failing words of men after the flesh.  Thus, we need to heed Paul’s final instruction in Romans 16:17: “avoid them”!  Have nothing to do with them!  Quit looking for something that might appear to be useful in their teaching.  

Some have suggested, on the basis of Matthew 18, that all criticism of teachings should be done on a one to one basis.  However, Matthew 18 applies to personal offenses rather than important doctrinal problems that affect the lives of many believers.  Matthew 18 does not apply to warning the sheep of serious doctrinal error.  For us there was no personal offense.  Moreover, pointing out doctrinal error privately will not protect the sheep if the perpetrator of that teaching does not repent publicly and effectually.



Instead of questioning those of us who name names, one should question why there is not more questioning by name those popular pastors and organizations that are in serious violation of the very Word of God that they claim to follow.  The most loving thing to do for the Body of Christ is to warn believers of those who propagate false teachings, and the most loving thing to do for the perpetrators of psychoheresy is to continue to speak forth in hopes that they will repent.  As we often say, we should never replace the God of the anointing with the present-day “anointed of God” by showering them with unwholesome adoration and unnecessary protection.  

While some Christian leaders are speaking out and condemning what we call psychoheresy, they typically refrain from speaking out specifically by naming names.  Rarely do we hear even those Christian leaders who agree with us name the names of individuals or organizations that are guilty. Where are the pastors, theologians, and church leaders who are willing to speak out against psychoheresy specifically by naming names? 

Not only must we name the names of leaders and organizations that condone and promote psycho heresy, we need to examine ourselves to see if we are allowing psycho heresy to creep into our thinking and living. The more secularly minded Christians are in their day-to-day thoughts and activities, the more apt they will be to succumb to the psychological wisdom of men.  Therefore we challenge our readers to examine themselves, for if you believe that the clinical psychological wisdom of man and its resulting psychotherapies can complement or augment the Word of God and the work of the Holy Spirit in believers’ lives, you are guilty of psychoheresy! 


© Copyright 2015 Martin and Deidre Bobgan 
PsychoHeresy Awareness Letter 


Endnotes
1. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. The Psychological Way/The Spiritual Way, Minneapolis: Bethany House Publishers, 1979.
2. We coined the term psychoheresy later to describe what we saw happening in the church at the time of our first book.
3. Roger Wright and Nicholas Cummings, eds. The practice of Psychology : The Battle for Professionalism.  Phoenix, AZ : Zieg, Tucker & Theisen, Inc, 2001, p.2
4.  Ellen Herman. The Romance of American Psychology. Berkeley, CA: University of California Press 1996, p.3
5. John T. McNeill, A History of the Cure of Souls. New York: Harper & Row, Publishers 1951.
6. Jay E. Adams, “About this book…,” Psychoheresy: The Psychological Seduction of Christianity, Santa Barbara, CA. : EastGate Publishers, 1987, endorsement page.
7. Jay E. Adams. Grist from Adams’ Mill. Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., 1983,p. 69.



Wednesday, September 3, 2014

Casting a vision or commandeering control?

This is a program that must be heard. Please go to the ministry webpage (Click here).  There you will find a link for the Podcast or download near the end of the Article to hear the program with Chris Rosebrough on Stand up for the Truth radio program.


From the Stand Up For The Truth radio program:

"What is Vision Casting? Where does it come from? And is Vision Casting Biblical? There is a way that is biblical, as our guest explains. And unfortunately, there is a broad way that a growing number of church leaders cast vision that is nowhere to be found in Scripture – but is often used to control and manipulate. Today we’re going to explore those methods with our guest.

Chris Rosebrough is the host of the daily radio program
Fighting For The Faith, heard around the world on Pirate Christian Radio, a broadcast group he founded to help Christians discern God’s Word by taking a look at what people say and teach in the name of Jesus and holding it up to the light of Scripture.

Stand Up For The Truth is a radio and online ministry that covers news of the day, trends in the church and theological issues that Christians deal with and talk about every day, and we give you a place to be educated, equipped and connected to help you discern along the way."


This is a program that needs to be heard, especially by those who are involved in a purpose-driven church. Abuses suffered by Christians by this kind of leadership abound. Finally, someone is speaking out for the sheep, Praise God. This practice of "vision casting" by Church leadership is not condoned by scripture and needs to be corrected. Christians are told to leave their church when they discern the error, and strong arm tactics are used to force them out of  fellowship.
 
 

Sunday, January 15, 2012

Joel Osteen: Origins and Errors of His Teaching

"But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully."  2 Corinthians 11:3-4  

Joel Osteen: Origins & Errors of His Teaching   (a Film by Keith Thompson)
SEE Video at Link: http://youtu.be/Ne34FMXm2XY

 

1. What does the bible say about Judging ?

2. What does Joel Osteen Actually Teach?

3. Where do Joel Osteen’s Teachings Come From?

4. Contrasting the Biblical Gospel with Osteen’s Views

5. Examples of Osteen Distorting Scripture to Support His Views

6.. Dangers of Osteen’s Teachings

Is Joel Osteen's teachings Biblical? Are they in line with ancient church belief?  What does he teach and where do his views come from? This documentary is the most comprehensive video refutation and expose of Joel Osteen that exists.  Many are asking what's happening in the Church today.





Monday, July 11, 2011

The Religious Right uniting with Religious Renegades Part 3

Stand Firm in the Faith has been given permission to reproduce the article below. This is a 3 part series of articles. (part 1, part 2)


THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT UNITING WITH RELIGIOUS RENEGADES
PART 3

By Marsha West
July 6, 2011
NewsWithViews.com

There’s an old saying, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions,” meaning that people who believe they are doing good often end up doing evil. It’s the law of unintended consequences. Unfortunately this is what has happened to some--not all--religious conservative organizations. I know of altruistic Christian activists, both conservative and liberal, who believe they are doing God’s work, but in their effort to “right wrongs” they have utterly failed to honor God’s command to “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” (Jude 1:3)

What does Jude mean? Simply that true followers of Jesus Christ are first and foremost to share Christ with the lost. Yet many so-called Christians are not evangelizing the lost for fear of being perceived as trying to “push their religion on others.” They detest being thought of as intolerant, thus they remain silent. News flash: The Gospel of Jesus Christ always has been and always will be offensive to those who are lost! It’s a whole lot easier to say “Jesus loves you” than “take up your cross and follow Him.”

Some prominent Christian Right (CR) leaders that head up ginormous organizations are so busy fighting the culture war that they’ve forgotten what’s most important -- Truth! Jesus said: "Thy Word is truth!" (John 17:17)

The CR (unrepentantly) unites with pretty much anyone who is likeminded politically. Sadly this includes a slew of false teachers, cultists, and Social Justice Christians (SJC) a.k.a. Progressive Evangelicals. SJCs are chiefly liberals whose main goal is to dismantle historical, orthodox Christianity and usher in a “new kind of Christianity.” In the name of social justice, SJC leaders stealthly steer undiscerning believers into a left-wing collectivized utopia!

SJC is beyond of the scope of this article so I’ll move on.

PRAGMATISM = COMPROMISE

Many in the CR leadership are uniting with evil doers (God’s word, not mine). They have climbed aboard the SS Pragmatism and are proceeding full speed ahead into shark infested waters. Uniting with evil doers serves two specific purposes. It helps get the message out and provides an additional source of revenue. And let’s face it. When the money stops rolling in organizations are forced to close their doors. So these additional funds, regardless of the source, keep the message alive and the group afloat.

Before I move to my next point I need to stress that it is my belief that Christians should try to influence public policy. How? By casting their vote, serving in local government, forming and joining special interest groups, writing letters to the Editor, giving financial support, and participating in lawful demonstrations. Anti-abortion activists are a good example of Christians trying to influence public policy. Pro-lifers have formed groups comprised mostly of Christians that engage in politics because it is the only means they have to end abortion. If Roe v. Wade is overturned, it will happen because of the dogged determination of political action groups.

For obvious reasons Christians should never relinquish control of the government to godless secular humanists and “grievous wolves” (Acts 20:29)! On the other hand, Christ never commanded His followers to build a theocracy!

Isn’t the NAR attempting to do this?

A SUBTLE SHIFT

P. J. Miller urges visitors to Sola Dei Gloria to read an essay by Rachel Tabachnic titled Lions In the Pews. “This is an extremely interesting article,” says Miller, “one I would suggest reading in its entirety. You may not agree with all of it, (the author touches on the rapture and a few other points which many believers differ over, theologically) but sitting that aside, the information concerning the subtle shift many Churches are making into Dominionist/Dominionism theology is excellent reading for those interested in the goals these people have set and are pursuing: That includes the NAR…”

The following is an excerpt from Tabachnic’s article with bold by P. J.:

But this strand has emerged from Pentecostal and Charismatic backgrounds and has been nearly invisible to both the mainstream press and progressive writers. Like other Dominionists the New Apostolics are culture warriors and have specific stated goals for overtaking all spheres of American society and government as seen in the video above.

Also, like other dominionist groups they actually invest much of their efforts in fighting the traditional institutionalized church.

However, they differ from most other Dominionist groups in their embrace of the outpouring of gifts of the holy spirit, or manifestations, like being slain in the spirit, Holy Laughter, and other states of altered consciousness that are a part of their very experiential worship style.

The New Apostolic Reformation is also much more focused on the expulsion of demons as the process for healing, social reform, or even raising people from the dead. They have a unique and extensive lingo that is dedicated to the description of the expulsion of territorial demons including terms like ground level spiritual warfare, occult level spiritual warfare, and strategic level spiritual warfare.

While Pentecostal churches have always celebrated a restoration of the church, this has been tempered with Rapture theology. As churches embrace this Apostolic revolution they are moving away from the traditions of Assemblies of God and other denominations and are adopting a view of the end time that includes the triumph and perfection of the church as opposed to escaping in the Rapture from an evil world descending into the apocalypse.

They see the imminent end times as a time of great glory for the restored true Apostolic church greater than the one of New Testament times, and a time when the foot soldiers of this church will be imparted with supernatural powers.

This outpouring of powers will allow them to crush evil with a “rod of iron” and deliver a purified church to Jesus when he returns.

Seeing as pro-family leaders Tony Perkins, Don Wildmon, Janet Porter and Mat Staver have united with the NAR one can’t help but wonder if they share their end times beliefs. It’s a legitimate question to ask.

PENTECOSTAL MOVEMENT

Methodist holiness preacher Charles Parham is considered the founder of modern Pentecostalism. Parham broke with the Methodist church and started his own ministry. In 1901Agnes Ozman began to speak in "tongues" when hands were laid on her. Parham believed that speaking in tongues was both a sign of Spirit baptism and also the signal of the end of the age. Parham also linked the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with a latter-day Pentecost.

“What began on a corner at the turn of the twentieth century is now barreling down Main Street. What was once known as the Pentecostal movement has now splintered into numerous diverse, yet overlapping movements: Pentecostal, Charismatic, Vineyard, Word-Faith, and Holy Laughter.” [1]

Add to the list Latter Rain Restorationism/ International House of Prayer (IHOP)/Third Wave/Deliverance/ Soaking in the Spirit/ and the aforementioned Dominionists/Seven Mountains/Elijah Revolution/Kingdom Now/Joel’s Army/Manifest Sons of God and most recently the NAR. I’ve only scratched the surface!

Bud Press of Christian Research Service lamented:

The Prophetic Movement is a dark, evil wasteland teeming with false apostles, false prophets, hyper-heretics, false healers, and greedy, money-hungry con men and women, all of whom are overshadowed by Satan and his demonic forces.

There’s plenty of blame to go around for the unholy mess the Church has become. Liberals, liars, and loons have infiltrated her. To paraphrase my pastor’s teaching (from my notes), believers have been misled by well-spoken, self-promoting, self-serving, charismatic leaders who emphasize power gifts but put little emphasis on preaching the gospel. These men and women think nothing of exploiting God’s people for their own gain.

Jesus gave us fair warning:

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  (Mat 7:15-17)

While we’re on the subject of ravening wolves, some false teachers deny the divinity of Jesus Christ…

There was no bodily resurrection…

The Bible was written by men, not by Divine inspiration. It’s a book of myths and fables, full of contradictions, open to interpretation, holds hidden meanings that only the “enlightened” can know…

Seriously?

Wolves teach that God loves, doesn’t judge, so all humans go to heaven.

Triniterianism is out…

No vicarious Atonement…

The virgin birth? Don’t make me laugh!...

As for sodomy? No sin there!...

Fornication and cohabitation? What’s the big deal?...

Abortion? It’s my choice!...

Wait a minute! A Christian can choose to murder a baby?

Really?

I could go on, but hopefully the point is made. The postmodern Church will only tolerate a small “g” god who simply rolls his/her eyes at sin and say, “Boys will be boys.”

Over 20 years ago the late Dr. Walter Martin took on liberalism in the Church:

Let me tell you something that I have learned; I know the liberals. I know them well; I was one of them. And they are the most dangerous, insidious, and all-pervading cult that’s loose in the United States right at this moment…

And this theological flea infestation is ruining the lifeblood of the Church, which is evangelism. And, you think these are very strong statements; I intend to back them up in—if necessary—excruciating details. For any person who does not know that today in the United States, and in denominational structures world-around, we are in an accelerating apostasy does not know—I repeat—does not know what’s going on…

We have, for more than one hundred years, been under sustained attack in the United States; in our theological seminaries, church related schools, and our churches. A sustained attack by people, who have the form of godliness, and work within the structure of the Church and have—wherever they have been permitted the opportunity—diluted the Gospel and destroyed the Faith.

They occupy today the chairs in our major theological seminaries; the rulership of our major denominational structures—they maintain boldly and boastfully—“This[is] the Church!” But it’s not the Church if it denies the power of the Gospel... [2]

LYING SIGNS & WONDERS

The NAR travels the globe allegedly performing miraculous healings, raising the dead back to life and breaking down “demonic strongholds.” They have visions as clear as a movie screen… give future prophecies…experience visitations from Jesus, angels, and Aimee Simple McPherson. As an extra added bonus they get “revelation knowledge” directly from God and have the unmitigated arrogance to say, “The Spirit of God spoke to me…” but there’s no way to verify whose voice they hear! According to Isaiah 8:20, “[I]f they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.”

With all the powers these wolves possess, I presume some of them can walk on water.

WE’RE STILL WAITING, RICK

In 1988 “super-prophet” Rick Joyner shared his “vision” concerning the coming “revolution” in the Church:

“What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or another awakening; it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in order to begin to awaken those who are destined to radically change the course, and even the very definition of Christianity. The dismantling of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and exhilarating experience for the Lord’s faithful servants. A great company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles will be raised up with the spirit of Phineas; it will be said of the apostles soon to be anointed that they have turned an upside down world right side up. Nations will tremble at the mention of their name.” [3]

Have I missed something? I can’t think of a single nation that trembles at the name of Rick Joyner or the other so-called apostles and prophets. Joyner’s alleged prophecy came to him over two decades ago. He claimed that the “soon to be” anointed would turn an upside world right side up. Well, what’s the hold up? With the way things are going in this country, I’m eager for the “great company” to turn things right side up, aren’t you?

A CALL TO DISCERNMENT

Admittedly there are some CR leaders that want to build a theocracy as do Dominionists, but many in the CR do not. The CR leadership unfamiliar with the NAR’s global goals is leading those involved in fighting the culture war into shark infested waters. They must “take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them (evil men).” (Deut. 12:30) In other words, listen up -- and abandon ship!

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. (2 Cor. 11:13, 14)


FOOTNOTES:

1- The History of the Charismatic Movement--By Gary E. Gilley

2- Walter Martin, The Cult of Liberalism, CD Rom—Obtained from Apprising Ministries

3- Rick Joyner. Restoration, May/June 1988, "The Harvest"

RECOMMENDED READING

For a more thorough understanding of the NAR, go to “Recommended Reading” in Part 1 & Part 2

The Prophet Movement: An Evil and Adulterous Generation—Christian Research Service website

Alexander Campbell Looks Beyond the Dominionists’ Seven Mountains--By David Brumley

Apostles and Prophets and the Foundation of the Church: Biblical Exegesis that Proves that Only the New Testament Apostles are Authoritative—By Critical Issues Commentary

Former IHOP Member Explains Why IHOP (International House of Prayer) Is A Cult— Sola Sisters website, posted by Christine Pack
VIEW VIDEOS:

1- The Religious Right's Modern Day Spartan Army—Tony Perkins of FRC talks with NAR “Apostle” Rick Joyner
2- America Needs Godly Leaders--Tony Perkins of FRC talks with Word of Faith preacher James Robison

3- Mat Staver invites you to TheCall Sacramento—Mat Staver, President of Liberty Council

LISTEN TO INTEVIEWS:

1- Ingrid Schlueter's interview with Sarah Leslie of Discernment Ministries

2- Jan Markell’s interview with Mike Oppenheimer of Let Us Reason Ministries


© 2011 Marsha West - All Rights Reserved

Marsha West is a religious/political-based writer and owner of EmailBrigade.com. As well, she is the founder and editor of the Email Brigade News Report, a biweekly news resource for people of faith that is chock-full of critical news and information…Marsha is dedicated to restoring a more common sense approach to our nation's governance by encouraging people to thoroughly understand the issues that impact American lives, and then to engage the culture.

Marsha's articles have been published widely online and in print. She is a regular contributor to News With Views, Renew America, Worldview Times, Christian Research Network, Conservative Crusader and a guest columnist for American Daily and Mich News.

Marsha is currently writing a fiction series for Christian children to equip them to defend their faith and live for Christ. Visit Marsha's website: http://emailbrigade.com/

Saturday, July 9, 2011

The Religious Right Uniting With Religious Renegades Part 2

Stand Firm in the Faith has been given permission to reproduce the article below. This is a 3 part series of articles. (part 1part 3)


THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT UNITING WITH RELIGIOUS RENEGADES
PART 2

By Marsha West
June 18, 2011

My purpose for writing this article is not to discredit, scold or embarrass the Christian Right (CR) for their part in helping to advance the bizarre beliefs of a renegade movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). My words are intended to be loving but firm. (Eph 4:15) I believe the CR’s intentions are good and that they are honorable men and women who believe they are faithfully serving our Lord. What they fail to understand is that the NAR is a Christian sect!

So with this in mind I am calling for spiritual discernment from CR leaders. Prominent Christians are not exempt from doing as the Bible instructs: “Prove [test] all things; hold fast to that which is good [true].” (1 Thes 5:21) My hope is that CR leaders will scrutinize NAR’s theology and doctrines by the light of God’s Word. If they will do this, what they will discover is that the NAR’s message has little to do with the true Gospel of Jesus Christ – and this should be cause for alarm.

CHRISTIANITY 101

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. (Heb 1:1-4)

The words the Son of God spoke while He was among us are found in the pages of the Bible. The Holy Spirit inspired the writers of the four Gospels to correctly record what they heard from the lips of Jesus. One of the essential doctrines of Christianity—a non-negotiable-- is the inerrancy of Scripture. In other words, everything in the Bible is true, thus God’s people must believe what the scriptures say. This is Christianity 101, my friends.

Nowhere in Scripture does it teach that we can expect “new revelation” from God. Those who teach this are in error. Moreover, our feelings and experiences are not to be trusted. I mean, seriously. Can you really trust your emotions?

Many Christians, especially Charismatic Christians, are open to receiving a “prophetic word from the Lord” through a so-called prophet. Some have even bought into the notion that they actually hear God speaking to them in a sort of whisper. Apologist Greg Koukl offers this warning:

This teaching that God will whisper in your ear all kind of particulars that pertain to you and His will for your life is very appealing to Christians. Even though when you look at the Scriptures, the specialized directions are rare. They are unusual. They are usually unsought. And they are always crystal clear. None of this "I think the Lord is telling me" business. People are still gravitating to the suggestion that we can develop a sixth sense that can tie us into a hotline to God so that we can have certitude about the things of life and the decisions we ought to make. Why is this appealing? Because it's easy. [1]

It is vitally important that we understand that God has chosen to speak to us through His Word:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness  (2 Tim 3:16-17).

The Bible makes it clear that God’s people are to live righteous lives. The Bible says thou shalt not lie, cheat, steal, have sex outside of marriage, laze around, dress like a slut, get occult tattoos, drink like a fish, view pornography, and so on and so forth. Living righteously means not being involved in immoral behavior. (I find it ironic that Christians knowingly participate in all sorts of activities that displease God, yet they sit around fretting over whether or not it’s God’s will for them to take that job offer, or marry Harry, or go on a mission trip to Timbuktu.)

Simply because someone believes they hear God whisper things that pertain to them—or His will for them--does not mean the “voice” is God’s. (Read Greg Koukl’s article Does God Whisper?)

Christians must be careful of such things as voices, visions, dreams, revelations, strong impressions, angel visitations and drawing on their experiences. None of these things should be given equal or greater authority than what is contained in Scripture. The Bible is the believer’s final authority. Everything we need to know has already been written. “If we do not base our understanding of Christ on the Word of God,” says Justin Edwards, “then all we are left with are opinions based on the figment of our imagination, the consequences of which are fatally hazardous to the soul.”

SEVEN MOUNTAINS TO CONQUER?

Conquering The Seven Mountains for Christ is the brainchild of the Dominionist movement. Over the years Dominionists have gone by many names including Latter Rain/Kingdom Now /Joel’s Army/Manifest Sons of God and most recently the NAR. The so-called Apostles and Prophets have a plan to aggressively “retake the reins of our country” for Christ. Dominionist Johnny Enlow wrote The Seven Mountain Prophecy where he shares his expertise on the subject. Enlow proclaims:

You are called to impact your culture! The coming Elijah Revolution will affect the entire world and will prepare the way of the Lord before His return.

What is the Elijah Revolution? ER’s website explains:

Elijah Revolution is a new ministry working in partnership with TheCall, Luke18 Project, and IHOP–KC, launching teen conferences and high school campus initiatives, calling teenagers to a life of wholehearted devotion to Jesus and radical commitment to God, in the spirit of a Nazirite.

Enlow continues:

There are seven nations “greater and mightier than we” – the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. These nations correspond to seven “mountains” of global society – Media, Government, Education, Economy, Religion, Celebration/Arts, and Family. These culture-shaping areas of influence over society are the keys to taking a nation for the kingdom of God.

This is hogwash.

The purpose of Enlow’s book is to:

help each individual determine his or her specific assignment in this mission; and then to offer insight into the nature of the battles involved in this spiritual confrontation.

Enlow then adds:

With divine power and favor, revolutionaries will take these mountains for Christ!

Revolutionaries?  Does he mean Christian young people must stand together and organize a far-left type revolution to take mountains for Christ?  Yes, this is exactly what Enlow is purporting.

I don’t have a problem with Christians standing together to try to shape the culture using biblical morality as a guideline. Nor do I have a problem with Christians becoming social activists, especially when it comes to protecting the unborn and traditional marriage. But here’s what I do have a problem with. It is a fact that the NAR is awash in heresy -- and this is easily proven – and yet these men and women, who teach doctrines of demons, are being taken seriously by the CR.

Something else I find troubling is that many professing Christians no longer share the Gospel of Jesus Christ – ever! Christians of all people should know that real change will not come until hearts and minds are changed. Why?  Because the unregenerate (unsaved) man is dead in his sins. In other words, the unsaved man is spiritually dead. (Eph 2:1)  When he accepts Christ, he is “born again” or regenerate. Thereafter he will see things through a spiritual lens. In time his worldview will change. Which leads to this question: Why are Christians not sharing the good news?

Listen to what Jesus commanded His followers to do:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. (Mat. 28:19-20)

This is a far cry from what the NAR is doing. They think God has given Christians a mandate to stem the tide of evil in this world. In order to accomplish this they must take the Seven Mountains of influence. These mountains of influence are:

(1) Arts and Entertainment; (2) Business/Economy; (3) Education; (4) Family; (5) Government; (6) Media; (7) Religion.

They believe that as they accomplish ridding the world of evil, things will get better and better and then Jesus Christ will return to set up His kingdom. And this is in the Bible?

One disgruntled left-wing blogger wrote:

I've been writing a lot about the steadily increasing influence that 7 Mountains/Dominion theology has been having on the Religious Right recently, though mostly as it has relates to Janet Porter.

But it is important to note that Porter is not alone in embracing this theology and partnering with activists who espouse it. For instance, Lou Engle played a central role in last year's Family Research Council "prayercast" against health care reform and has developed ties to many other Religious Right leaders as well. Others, like Cindy Jacobs of Generals International, have likewise been making similar connections and several of these groups have also become members of the right-wing supergroup known as the Freedom Federation.

And even Newt Gingrich is cultivating his own ties to 7 Mountains advocates. Last year, Gingrich appeared alongside Engle at a "Rediscovering God In America" conference where Engle laid hands upon Gingrich and prayed for God's protection for him. Not long thereafter, Gingrich formed a group called Renewing American Leadership and tapped Engle-associate and Prop 8 leader Jim Garlow to serve as Chairman of the organization. [2]

So what is going on here? It is obvious—even to the far-left--that the CR has united with the NAR. If this is untrue then why, for example, is the American Family Association (AFA) part of the leadership group promoting Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s “apolitical prayer meeting” The Response: August 6 1011?  Is AFA not aware that the group includes several NAR leaders?  Look at the list!  In the leadership are such notables as:

Luis & Jill CataldoMike Bickle’s International House of Prayer (IHOP)

Randy & Kelly BohlanderIHOP &Lou Engle’s The Call

Dave SlikerThe Call & The Elijah Revolution

Doug StringerNAR Apostle

I can only assume Gov. Perry’s heart is in the right place and his purpose for this event is honorable, but without question the aim of many of those in leadership is to advance the NAR’s Seven Mountain agenda to take over society and government for Christ.

Sarah Leslie of Discernment Ministries has written extensively on the NAR. In an email to me Sarah explained the depths of the NAR leader’s depravity:

They believe that the modern-day apostles are gifted with the same gifts as the New Testament era Apostles (with a capital "A"). We know from Scripture that the first Apostles in the New Testament era were given a unique job by Christ Himself, which was to write the books that we have in the Canon of Scripture. These 12 men gave us the Foundation (Rev. 21:14) of the DOCTRINE of the Gospel of Salvation. It was the APOSTLE'S DOCTRINE which built the church.

The NAR believes that the modern-day apostles are being given new words (both rhema and logos) from God and are able to re-write that doctrine with "new understandings." We have many articles posted about this on Herescope, including some key quotes from C. Peter Wagner and Hector Torres.

The NAR teaches the heresy that the modern-day apostles are the "foundation" of the church in a reverse hierarchical pyramid structure where they will rule the world (the 7 mountains) from a top-down networking structure. Their rule is said to be absolute and requires obedience from their downline. See the series that we ran on Herescope, for example. [3]

I’ll end part 2 with a quote from 2 Thes. 2:13-15:

But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Stay tuned for part 3


© 2011 Marsha West - All Rights Reserved

1. Hearing God’s Voice—By Gregory Koukl

2. The Dominionist Agenda Driving Gingrich's New Organization —Right WingWatch.com

3. The quote was taken from an email sent to me by Sarah Leslie, used by permission.

Recommended Reading:

1- New Apostolic Reformation articles

2- The Death of Truth—By Greg Koukl

3- My 7 years working for the Elijah List—By Kevin Kleint

View:

1- Lou Engle--Our Nazerite call

2- Rick Joyner – meeting with congressman

3- Morningstar Ministries and the End-Time Army-- they are referring to Joel's Army/Joshua Generation, and they are targeting our children!


Marsha West is a religious/political-based writer and owner of EmailBrigade.com. As well, she is the founder and editor of the Email Brigade News Report, a biweekly news resource for people of faith that is chock-full of critical news and information…Marsha is dedicated to restoring a more common sense approach to our nation's governance by encouraging people to thoroughly understand the issues that impact American lives, and then to engage the culture.

Marsha's articles have been published widely online and in print. She is a regular contributor to News With Views, Renew America, Worldview Times, Christian Research Network, Conservative Crusader and a guest columnist for American Daily and Mich News.

Marsha is currently writing a fiction series for Christian children to equip them to defend their faith and live for Christ. Visit Marsha's website: Email Brigade News Report

The Religious Right uniting with Religious Renegades, Part 1

Stand Firm in the Faith has been given permission to reproduce the article below. As false teaching and heretical doctrines increase, it is becoming more vital then ever for Christians to Stand Firm in the Faith. 1 Thess. 5: 21-22 to “examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil“

The Religious Right uniting with Religious Renegades, 
 Part 1
By Marsha West
May 18, 2011

Some Religious Right leaders have joined forces with movers and shakers, literally speaking, of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). They have been warned about this "New Breed" of Christian and their global kingdom agenda and have chosen to disregard the warnings. This article will put to rest the notion that the NAR's esoteric doctrines fall within the pale of orthodox Christianity. The hope of course is that the Religious or Christian Right will wake up and smell the coffee and sever all ties with these renegades.

What's astounding is that conservative Christian leaders, many of whom are biblically literate, fail to recognize blatant false teaching. For instance, some of them assume John Hagee, senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, is an orthodox preacher when Hagee promotes unbiblical word-faith teaching!

But this is not about John Hagee's promotion of the doctrine of positive confession. This is about the unorthodox teaching and the sinister plans of the NAR. The reason I'm sounding the alarm is that more and more Christians are getting caught up in this cult.

False teachers have made their mark on the Church by marketing a user-friendly "relevant" Christianity that is a whole lot more palatable to the unchurched "seeker" than the Christianity of the Reformers. Admittedly, even to the discerning believer truth laced with false teaching is as tough to detect as a few drops of arsenic in a tall glass of water.

Some apostates are so sly that the average Christian in the pew is defenseless against them. But, thankfully, not everyone is taken in by them. When false teaching comes into churches from lose canons who depart from sound doctrine (Titus 2:1) some folks recognize it and alert others. In many instances those who speak up and address their concerns are ignored, marginalized, or accused of being divisive. The person who will not back down is often given the boot!


THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

I have written about NAR previously. I pointed out that,

leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation, a heretical movement that sprang from the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, claim that they hear directly from God, Jesus and angels. They even encourage their followers to contact angels despite the fact that Scripture expressly forbids contacting the spirit world because Satan and his demons can appear as an "angel of light" to deceive people. (2 Cor 11:14) Like the apostles who established the early church, these "restored apostles and prophets" believe they are called by God to lay the foundation and government for the new earthly Kingdom. Moreover, they believe that soon they will take dominion over government and dominate the world politically and spiritually. (I'll cover Dominionism in Part 2.)

It has become necessary to report on the NAR again because it is gaining credibility with evangelicals as well as the conservative media, entertainers, politicians and the Tea Party movement.

Last year self-professed NAR prophet Cindy Jacobs' and General's International held the May Day 2010: A Cry To God For A Nation In Distress at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial where "local representatives shared about their state's Christian heritage and lifted up prayers for their state and the United States. National leaders offered up prayers of repentance for seven main issues: family, the church, education, arts and entertainment, business, government and the media." Janet Porter of Faith2Action had an active role in organizing the gathering. In attendance were such notables as James Dobson, Tony Perkins, Wendy Wright, Jerry Newcombe, Peter LaBarbera, David Barton, Mathew Staver, Robert Knight, Alan Keyes, to name a few. Also in attendance were several NAR leaders including C. Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce, Dutch Sheets, Lance Wallnau and Rick Joyner.

In April 2010 conservative Liberty University in Lynchburg, VA hosted The Awakening 2010 conference sponsored by the Freedom Federation. They define themselves as "a group of the nation's largest multiracial, multiethnic and multigenerational faith-based and policy organizations representing more than 30 million Americans united by core values. The group's mission is to bring together community leaders committed to mobilizing the Judeo-Christian worldview to preserve freedom and promote justice."

One of the speakers at the event was Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli. Other influential leaders include Newt Gingrich, Gary Bauer, Tony Perkins, Wendy Wright, Richard Land, Andrea Lafferty, Kelly Shackelford, Ken Blackwell, Mat Staver, Rick Scarborough, and NAR Apostles Cindy Jacobs, Lou Engle, Harry Jackson and Samuel Rodriguez.

What is wrong with this picture? People from the NAR who are in the grip of evil were invited to participate in both of these events. One example is Cindy Jacobs. Jacobs is the NAR's "lead U.S. National Apostle." Cindy is supposedly a modern day prophet. But I beg to differ. This woman has uttered more false prophecies than Walgreen's has pills, proving beyond a reasonable doubt that she is no more a prophet of God than Lady Gaga! The truth is, Cindy Jacobs is a false prophet.

The May 2010 edition of Herescope reported:

Forays by NAR Apostles into the political scene in America have been until recently sparse. But Lou Engle...who has his own ministry to youth called "The Call," has been politically active in pro-life and homosexual issues. Some months ago he was able to pray for Gingrich and Huckabee with the laying on of apostolic hands. But very recently the political stars seem to have come suddenly into alignment.

American political landscape has suddenly changed. A tumult is appearing in the land with the passage of health care reform. The Christian Right, with its years of courting political influence, is now poised to merge with the new Tea Party Movement. In times of crisis, natural or caused, things seem to happen faster and opportunities, that would take years, seem to happen in months. There is the scent of rebellion in the air.

Before I move on, I should point out that there is nothing wrong with Christians gathering together to stand up for biblical principles and fight the forces of wickedness that are destroying America. And there's certainly nothing wrong with praying for our country and for the men and women in the armed forces who put their lives on the line so that we can live free. To say that our nation and our soldiers are in dire need of prayer is an understatement. Even though the Christian Right (CR) often shares a stage with controversial groups/persons it does not mean that they necessarily share their views; what it does mean however is that when controversial groups/persons are invited to participate in a CR event it appears that they endorse these groups/persons. It grieves me to say this — and I'll get a lot of flak for it — but many professing Christians seem to have little or no problem partnering with false teachers and cultists, perhaps because these groups/persons are useful in furthering their political causes.

As a conservative Christian myself, I find partnering with the wicked unacceptable for the reasons that: (1) God opposes the wicked; (2) The wicked should not be given a platform — especially when God's people provide that platform!

But that's just me.

Ever notice how the CR complains about RINOs (Republican in name only) hijacking the Republican Party? Former Mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani is considered a RINO because he's fiscally conservative and socially liberal. So when he ran for President in 2008 he couldn't muster the support of socially conservative evangelicals because they get all hot under the collar when liberals, who call themselves moderates, refuse to adhere to the official Republican platform on important issues such as abortion, homosexuality and same-sex "marriage." Yet the CR has no problem joining forces with CINOs (Christians in name only) that pervert sacred Scripture!

Listen to what Jesus said about false prophets:

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves   (Mat. 7:15).
And,
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect  (Mark 13:22).

MOVIN' ON UP
The NAR a.k.a. Latter Rain/Kingdom Now/Dominionist/Joel's Army/Manifest Sons of God — no doubt I've left some names out — has been on the rise for over six decades. As you can see the name has been changed umpteen times so that unsuspecting Christians will swallow the hype that there's a "New Wave" or a "Paradigm Shift" taking place in Christendom. They claim they're receiving new revelation from God and are ushering in "a reformation greater in scale than the reformation of the 1500's." They also claim that a new group of believers will rise up and be given the power to perform miraculous signs and wonders, even greater than the miracles of Jesus and the Apostles — and they believe they have the power to cast out demons, heal the sick, raise the dead and bring multitudes into the Kingdom of God.

The founder of this sect is C. Peter Wagner from Fuller Theological Seminary. Wagner is one of the leading authorities on the Church Growth movement and has been studying the field of church growth for close to 40 years. (Rick Warren wrote his doctoral dissertation at Fuller Seminary on Wagner's church growth ideas and was mentored by Wagner.) C. Peter Wagner is the "presiding apostle" in the International Coalition of Apostles.

Orrel Steinkamp of Discernment-Ministries believes Wagner is,

attempting to will into existence [the] 'New Apostolic Reformation.' He tells us in a book he has edited called 'The New Apostolic Churches' of the struggle he had with naming his new reformation. [3]

As I pointed out earlier, what the NAR is putting out there is not new. In fact, Bill Hamon of Christian International has been teaching it for decades. Hamon runs a school to train people to become modern day "Apostles" and "Prophets." In his view the church is in her third and final Reformation and Christ can't return to earth until the Church purifies itself.

Steinkamp wonders:

Can it be argued that this 'New reformation' is something that God has just recently dropped new from heaven like the baby Superman from Krypton? I suggest that there is nothing new here at all and for anyone willing to do the study they will find it a mere cutting edge version of something at least 100 years old. G. Raymond Carlson, former General Superintendent of the AOG [USA], had this to say regarding the new apostles and prophets:

'I saw it in the New Order of the Latter Rain in the late 40's and early 50's. Before that, it made its presence felt in the early days of the century among early Pentecostals.'

Steinkamp continues:

To Latter Rain teachers it seemed obvious that if there was to be a repeated apostolic Pentecost then apostles and prophets must be restored as well. These teachers then devised a historical scheme of restoration. Church history was understood as a succession of recoveries of lost or neglected truths. Luther recovered justification by faith, Baptists believers' baptism, Wesley holiness, A.B. Simpson healing and the early Pentecostal pioneers the gifts of the Spirit. The recovery process was now extended further. The end time body of Christ must go on to maturity and restore the apostles and prophets and these restored ministries must lead the church to a new and final dimension of power and authority not only bringing in the final harvest but establishing the Kingdom of God upon the earth. [4]

Are we to establish a Kingdom of God upon earth?  Listen to what Jesus says:
My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.  (John 18:36).

The NAR has one thing right. The ministry of the apostles continues today:
Not in the person of anyone claiming to be an apostle, but in the New Testament. Every time the Word of God in the New Testament is read and proclaimed, the apostolic ministry and office fulfills its role. The apostles of the first century live on today, in the Church, through the Word God has given us through them. [5]

Part 2 coming soon!

NOTES:
[1] The History of the Charismatic Movement — By Gary E. Gilley

[2] Rick Joyner. Restoration, May/June 1988, "The Harvest"

[3] The New Apostolic Reformation — By Orrel Steinkamp, D. Min

[4] Ibid

[5] Unknown author

RECOMMENDED READING
The Coalescing of the Christian Right with Apostolic Dominionism — By Orrel Steinkamp

Dominionism and the Rise of Christian Imperialism — By Sarah Leslie

NAR Prophetess's Inflammatory Comments on the Egypt Crisis — Herescope blog

The 'Great Wealth Transfer' — 100 Percent Returns! — By Spirit of Error

Links to articles that cover the New Apostolic Reformation


© Marsha West

Marsha West is a religious/political-based writer and owner of EmailBrigade.com. As well, she is the founder and editor of the Email Brigade News Report, a biweekly news resource for people of faith that is chock-full of critical news and information…Marsha is dedicated to restoring a more common sense approach to our nation's governance by encouraging people to thoroughly understand the issues that impact American lives, and then to engage the culture.

Marsha's articles have been published widely online and in print. She is a regular contributor to News With Views, Renew America, Worldview Times, Christian Research Network, Conservative Crusader and a guest columnist for American Daily and Mich News.

Marsha is currently writing a fiction series for Christian children to equip them to defend their faith and live for Christ. Visit Marsha's website: http://emailbrigade.com/

Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Rob Bell: a Brother to Embrace, or a Wolf to Avoid?

It is every christian's responsibility to Stand Firm in the Faith. What we are to hold firmly to -- is the sufficiency of the Scriptures. Titus 1:9-11 says: "holding fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, so that he will be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict. For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.

Below is a link to the website for Grace to You for an article on Rob Bell's teachings examined. Here we include some quotes from that article:  "If, as Jesus said, His sheep hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27), then we ought to look with the utmost suspicion on anyone who doubts and denies as much of Jesus' teaching as Rob Bell does, and yet claims to be a follower of Christ.

Scripture is crystal-clear about this: "If any one advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine comforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing" (1 Timothy 6:3-4).

Below is a link for the present article. There will be additional posts added at the website.
** Please see links below for Articles by John MacArthur
Rob Bell: a Brother to Embrace, or a Wolf to Avoid?
Rob Bell: ""Evangelical and orthodox to the bone?" Hardly.  http://www.gty.org/Blog/B110414
Rob Bell’s Unbelief in His own Words  http://www.gty.org/Blog/B110418
Rob Bell’s Inferno http://www.gty.org/Blog/B110421
For Those Who Rail Against Hell - http://www.gty.org/Blog/B110426
The Truth About Hell - http://www.gty.org/Blog/B110430
Is Hell really endless? -http://www.gty.org/Blog/B110506


Additional resources
Radio interview on Way of the Master
YouTube - John MacArthur - The Emergent Church - Part 1  
SEE Video here: http://youtu.be/OH1yOmij7Q4

The Emergent Church - Part 2
http://youtu.be/vG3VNrfJsLI

Monday, March 21, 2011

Out of body Experiences - Are they for real?

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Out of body Experiences - Are they for real?
By Cheryl Schatz
On the February 14th, 2011 edition of Supernatural TV, Sid Roth asks “Is it possible to walk through a door and find yourself in another part of the world? Bruce Allen was taught the secrets of supernatural travel and he says, ‘You can do it too!’” Sid Roth, the TV host of Supernatural TV, is a Messianic Jew who arose out of New Age doctrines but he continues to focus on the supernatural without much discernment.

The focus on the supernatural and paranormal has never before been so up front in the church, with many Christians claiming to have experienced an out-of-body experience. While some claim to have left their body and traveled to Heaven to receive a message to encourage other Christians, others are leaving their bodies to travel around the world accomplishing some kind of spiritual warfare.

Some like Patricia King of Extreme Prophetic teach that any believer can learn how to go to heaven to “encounter the Lord and His angelic majesties”. In her “Glory School” she teaches how to soar into realms of heavenly glory at will Patricia King is just one of the “Prophets” from the Elijah List. The Elijah List is a newsletter sent out to over 100,000 subscribers giving them access to the prophetic writings of such false teachers as: James W. Goll, Bob Jones, Rick Joyner, Cindy Jacobs and Todd Bentley. James Goll appears to be predicting even more supernatural travel and revelations as he writes “Watch for open heavens in 2011”.


What are we to think of the experiences of those who have “traveled” alive to Heaven in an out-of-body experience? Out-of-body Soul Travel is not new. It is found in ancient Egyptian teachings that present the soul as having the ability to hover out-side the physical body. It is also found in ancient Hindu scriptures and in Japanese mythology where it is believed that a part of the whole of one’s soul can temporarily leave their body and appear before the target of their hate in order to curse or otherwise harm an enemy. Soul travel is found in Theosophy and Eckandar, non-Christian religions based on mysticism, and it is also found in Rosicrucianism, a philosophical secret society.


But why are Christians now experiencing what has historically been an occult practice? And what does the Bible have to say about our spirit’s ability to travel outside of our living body? James 2:2:26 dispels the myths by saying that “the body without the spirit is dead”. What this means is that if a person were to go to Heaven without their body, their body would have to be dead since the body cannot survive with out the spirit. Paul himself said that being “absent from the body” was “to be at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8) a clear reference to the death of the body without the spirit.


Paul writes that a person could be taken to heaven in their body, although he was unsure if the experience that he recalled in 2 Cor. 12:2 was such an occurrence. In this passage Paul recorded that a man (most theologians believe this was Paul himself) was caught up to the third heaven and Paul was not sure if this was in the body” (a transport of the body) or “out of the body” (an experience after death). Paul had several instances where he was whipped, beaten and once he was stoned, an act that usually doesn’t leave survivors. This maybe why Paul was unsure whether he experienced the third heaven after a death and resuscitation experience, or whether he went to paradise in his physical body. Whichever it was, there is no evidence at all that Paul had his spirit in paradise while he had a living body on the earth. Otherwise, the Bible would not be true when it says that “the body without the spirit is dead”.


When John writes about himself that he was “in the Spirit on the Lord’s day”, he was not saying that he died and went to heaven as a spirit. The term “in the Spirit” does not mean that one becomes a spirit as the Jehovah’s Witnesses falsely teach about Jesus’ resurrection which was “in the Spirit”. Rather “in the Spirit” means to be under the power and control of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, when John was “in the Spirit on the Lord’s day” he was under the Spirit’s control. He was not having an out-of-body experience.


Since the Bible teaches that the body cannot live without the spirit, why are so many Christians claiming to have left their body, when they never died? I believe the last day’s deception has arrived in full force and many Christians have been deceived by experiences that led them into various areas of extra-biblical deception. They accepted the experience without testing it.


We are instructed by the Bible to test everything, even our experiences, no matter how real and good these experiences seem to be, they must still be tested to see if they line up with God’s Word.


 Patricia King relates experiences with groups of Christians levitating and then being transported as spirits to locations around the world. In this state she claimed that “Jesus” spoke to her claiming that these experiences will be said by many to be empowered by occult power, but she was assured that she should not to be afraid of a false source of power. It is evident that Patricia King did not test these experiences by God’s Word, for these experiences contradict God’s Word.


Rick Joyner, the self-professed mentor of the disgraced Todd Bentley, has written about his own experiences of going to heaven where he met with the dead. In Rick Joyner’s “experiences” in heaven, dead people read his mind, but this does not line up with God’s Word, as only God can read the hearts and minds of men. Joyner also claims to have met a dead man who admitted that he was an enemy of the gospel when he was alive on the earth, and who worked to keep people away from the gospel, yet this dead man ended up in heaven according to Joyner’s communication with the dead!


Joyner also received a revelation that reinterprets Scripture when a group of dead people claimed that they were the foolish virgins of Jesus’ parable, but that they too made it to heaven. Rick Joyner concludes that these dead people couldn’t be lying about that.


It is too bad that Joyner did not believe Jesus’ words rather than the testimony of the dead”. Matthew 25:10-12 shows the foolish virgins asking to be allowed into the wedding feast in heaven, but the door was shut to them and Jesus Himself denied “knowing” them.


Rick Joyner’s experiences with the supernatural brought him further revelations that Satan is a bearer of truth, although he says Satan’s truth is truth without grace. However, if Joyner had checked out the Scriptures, he would have found out the testimony of Jesus is that Satan “does not stand in the truth”, because “there is no truth in him”. Who are we to believe---Jesus or the testimony of the “dead” in the out-of-body experiences of Rick Joyner?


The deception that resulted from Rick Joyner’s experience in heaven taught him that having the “mind of Christ” results in the ability to know everything about everyone that you encounter.

Yet the Bible clearly shows that the realm of knowing the heart of man belongs to God alone. The one who testified to Joyner and reinterpreted the Word of God causing Joyner to seek to gain for himself God’s own ability to read minds, was nothing less than a liar and deceiver. The fruit of these out-of-body experiences is not truth but deception.

Bob Jones, the “seer-prophet” who admitted sexual misconduct in 1991, claims to go to the third heaven several times a week and he also receives visits by a female angel named Emma. This “female angel” is the one who birthed the prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980’s according to Bob Jones. Bob Jones was removed from the Vineyard Anaheim because of sexual improprieties, which consisted of encouraging women to undress in his office so they could stand ‘naked before the Lord’ in order to receive a ‘word.’ Deception and immorality often go hand in hand!


In a surprising turn of events, Dennis Cramer one of the Elijah List prophets, has written a scathing rebuke to the church for allowing bad doctrine to come into their midst, however much of what he condemned had already been rampant amongst the Elijah List prophets. Dennis Cramer’s warning was posted on the Elijah List and then quickly taken down when it caused a lot of concern from those who had been following the experience focused “prophets”. Later the warning was reposted with a clarification.


The January 15, 2011 repost by Cramer (and subsequent Charisma magazine article also by Cramer) denounced the teaching that Christians could go to heaven at will. While Dennis Cramer did not come right out and refute the teaching that a person can leave his body alive and travel in the spirit, he did bring a stinging rebuke to the false doctrine that is rampant in the experience-related prophetic movement. Here is a part of his message:


“Do I believe in Third Heaven experiences? Absolutely, I do. The Bible supports such sovereign experiences as in the example of Paul in 2 Corinthians 12. Do I believe in being physically transported? Absolutely, I do! By a sovereign act of God, Phillip was physically transported (Acts 8) from one location to another. So if it’s in the Bible I believe it! I believe it all! Amen!


“However, there is a HUGE difference between God willing you to have a certain sovereign Bible experience (like Paul or Phillip), as opposed to you willing it or trying to make it happen, to duplicate it through mere human effort or merely through the exercising of your human or soulish will, in other words, “at will.”


These Bible experiences were 100% sovereign. They did not happen because these individuals willed them into existence or willed them to happen….Teachings like this often crossover into dangerous methods and techniques that resemble New Age Mysticism, Spiritism or other occult manipulative practices. A believer cannot and must not force, manipulate, or otherwise attempt to reproduce a sovereign supernatural Bible experience by merely following a method, a series of steps, or worst of all “willing it” to happen.”


Dennis Cramer goes on to give an antidote to pervasive false teaching in the charismatic church. He writes:


“I would like to prescribe a good healthy dose of the written Word of God, the Bible. The Church needs an immediate injection of the truth! We must all pray for the church to return to the orthodoxy (traditional belief) of Scripture. This means a return to the proper reading, INTERPRETATION, and application of the Bible in our lives. There is a growing trend toward some really bad doctrine out there. And we, the Church, must put a stop to it! If we don’t no one else will!! The Church must begin to police herself against unorthodox (false) teaching and bizarre practices. You must reacquaint yourself with the Scriptures and know your Bible…


“We must pray for a “Berean Revival” in the Church -- a revival which returns us all to our roots --our roots in the Word of God. In the bible, the original Bereans were Believers who “searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things be so.” There is a lot of doctrine currently in circulation in the charismatic Church that is highly questionable---even heretical.


Each Believer must begin to “search the Scriptures” for himself to discover whether what he is believing is Biblical or not (Acts 17:11). Stop unequivocally trusting ministers and their pulpits to always and completely preach the truth---some do, some do not. You need to search and know the Scriptures for yourself. If their teachings sound too good to be true---they very well may be! Know your Bible!…It is time for the Church to return to her basic Bible beliefs (fundamental doctrines) and the core values these fundamental doctrines produce…We must stop extracting obscure, vague, single, solitary verses out of context, and stop trying to make major “sound “ doctrines out of them…We are “twisting the Scriptures to our own destruction.”


What an amazing message from within the Elijah List itself! No doubt there were ripples in the charismatic community when Dennis Cramer listed a lot of the excesses as bad doctrine. Here are just a few from his list:
  • Open Heaven/Spiritual Portals = BAD DOCTRINE
  • Going to Heaven At Will to Get Your Gifts = BAD DOCTRINE
  • Cloud of Witnesses/Dead Saints= BAD DOCTRINE
  • Traveling in Time At Will = BAD DOCTRINE
  • Transporting Physically At Will = BAD DOCTRINE
  • Going into Trances At Will = BAD DOCTRINE
  • Trance Dancing = BAD DOCTRINE
  • Hyper-Grace: Christians Do Not Need to Repent of Sin=BAD DOCTRINE
While I cannot endorse all that Dennis Cramer has said about the prophetic, his rebuke to the experience-seekers in the church was a breath of fresh air that was sent out to all 100,000 subscribers of the Elijah List! In concluding his rebuke, Cramer writes this encouraging word:

“I hear the Church saying again, “DEVIL, IT IS WRITTEN!” It does not matter what you think, feel, sense, or even believe. It does not matter what experience you claim to have had, or how many trips to Heaven you claim to have made, or how many angels you know on a first name basis. The only thing that matters is what God said in His Word. Know your Bible….Many will willingly and increasingly enter into incorrect thinking. Hard-core deception will find a home in the Church in 2011, if we are not diligent to know and follow the Word of God. Remember these words from Scripture: “Be not deceived!” This is a command, and the Responsibility of all Bible-believing Believers. Notice that deception is a choice! We must choose not to be deceived in 2011. How? Know your Bible!”

We pray that the word that was spoken from inside the Elijah List will cause many to re-evaluate their failure to test all things by God’s Word. We are in the last days and we have been told that deception will be rampant in these last days. Let us not be ones who are snared by a lie but rather let us be ones who love the truth of God’s Word and hold it tight, who have the fear of God and who are willing to lay aside every weight that hinders us from running the race in truth. Such ones will not be hooked by the deception but will be kept by God’s truth.


Copyright© 2011 Cheryl Schatz




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